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Time allows people to perceive motion. Furthermore, people perceive it differently. One might feel that his perception of time and its manifestation is within a timely context and its justification, regardless if near or far. On the other hand, another person might perceive time as a hand on a clock that moves along minute by minute, validating each change as a sequence of time.

It is utmost important to understand that the concept of time is not easy to explain and not easy to comprehend; even among each other. Especially complicated it will get if one introduces the concept of an afterlife and the probability of time existing in those spheres of existence. The question arises, if time does not exist in an afterlife: How can communication take place between the two spheres?

Hoping to better demonstrate the events that take place, I would like to introduce a model to shed some light on this important aspect of exploring the afterlife.

First of all, it is important to distinguish between the existence of a physical - mathematical term of time and the existence of a consciousness term of time within each human being.

All of us are aware of the phrases: "Well, that took a long time!", "That went fast!", "How much longer will that take?" and so forth. No conflict arises with the physical term of time, since we do have scales to monitor time, as we know it, with explicit accuracy. But, does time exist without the existence of a human being, who interprets what time is - with his human consciousness? Simply put, does time exist without someone reading the clock?

To demonstrate the variety of explanations of this phenomenon, I would like to use a few quotations of other possible models:

Time,

the one-after-the-other-correspondence of things.

the succession of happenings, to be experienced as an irreversible sequence of events, a longitude of change, incidents in nature and history.

to be viewed, depending on scientific (philosophical) views, as finite or infinite, homogenous, divisible continuum, which under specific points of view and appropriations act as a scheme of order.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001 [german translation]


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Time in physics
In physics: time is, by experience, not influenceable. However, it is according to the theory of relativity with the instance of motion of a time measuring observer and its dependent base quantity (t) and seconds (s).
Newtonian, classical physics (non-relative), declared time independent of matter and independent of its variations in its material change, with a clear causal connection (earlier-later-relation) to equally go off in every space of the universe at the same time. By definition of a time interval with a beginning and an end of randomly reproducible events, independent of the measures of the experiments as a unit of time and durance, time becomes precise.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


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Time
is the basic concept necessary to comprehend the motion of matter. Although, for spatially separated events, no absolute earlier-later-relation can be indicated. Yet it is possible for timely separated events and especially for points of a world-line ( = explanation of the movement of a point through a curve in a four dimensional space-time-world); for those, the direction of time is fixed.
(c) Physiklexikon Band 2 , VEB F.A. Brockhaus Verlag


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Time
is for the casual perception a continuous progression in which all changes take place. Within the space-time-continuum all statements are relative. Each statement depends on the location of the observer and his motion relative to the observed object.
(c) "Das neue Taschenlexikon" Band XYZ, Bertelsmann Lexikon Verlag


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Time (by Stephen W. Hawking)
According to the theory of relativity, each observer has his own measure of time, which is registered on the watch he is wearing. Watches on different observers do not have to register the same measurement of time. Therefore, time evolved into a personal concept, depending on the observer who is measuring it.
(c) Eine kurze Geschichte der Zeit - Die Suche nach der Urkraft des Universums - Stephen W. Hawking - Rowohlt Verlag
[(c) A brief history of time - from the big bang to black holes - Stephen W. Hawking]


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Time and Cosmology
Time came about with the big bang, since time before the big bang is could not be defined. The big bang theory suggests: Before matter, space, and time came to being, everything was concentrated within a singularity of extreme density and temperature. Quantitative cosmology was able to approach this singularity to about 10-34 seconds. Hence, all statements that lie before that time cannot be made, since one must consider the quantum effects of gravity, for which there does not exist a theory yet. Time within a black hole does not exist.


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Time and Consciousness
Because of the scientific method, the physical-mathematical concept of time is determined without any reference to human consciousness. But time is something that every person experiences. Each day we fill it, time that is, with meaningful things.
A universal determination of time must therefore include an experiencing individual, the perspective of a first person, and that of others as well. Contrary to the scientific concept of time, a lifetime is an existential dimension. Forecast or the look back do not exhaust themselves in a distant registration of facts and their causal connection. Through the consciousness of time, a correlation can be found to ones own behavior, goals, motivations, and consequences. Past and future are equally judged. Goals can be set, accountability of possible consequences can be taken, and guilt can be restored.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


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Time within Human Consciousness
The passage of the present is experienced differently within the human consciousness; the non-reversable passage of events, which is experienced as past, present, and future in the context of things coming to be and passing away.
We experience the world as a directed process which allows a conceptual division of space and time. Therefore, time is an abstract emphasis of changeable states of reality.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


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Time,
the feeling of change in moments, hours, days, months, years.
(c) Deutsches Woerterbuch 1996


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Interestingly, perception, observer, assessment, consciousness and judgment are important elements in all definitions and descriptions of time. It is obvious that for the perception of time, a consciousness must be present.
For example a watch on Mars with no observer - digits will change! But is this considered a measurement of time? More and more explorers of established sciences believe that something becomes existent only through observation - even our universe itself. Please remember that all of our perception is based on five senses. However, far more things exist which cannot be perceived by our five senses. Every person can convince him/herself of this by looking at x-rays and microwave radiation photographs of the universe. Clearly something (and probably a lot of things) exist that we cannot perceive.


On the Human Plane (our 3 dimensional world) we experience different types of consciousness':

The "I" - consciousness still exists regardless whether I turn off all signals to my sense organs, that is if I loose contact with my outer world and my own body itself.

The waking-consciousness; the opposite to the loss of consciousness.

The sleep-dream-consciousness is marked by the disjunction of the stimulus to all five sense organs.

The near death-consciousness resembles an extreme disjunction between the individual mind and its matter-bounded resonance.

Lets take a look at a simple and well known example:
While sleeping, we do not register the time sequence known to us during the waking state. Our sleep-dream-consciousness is therefore completely different from our waking-consciousness. Could it be that time, as we know it, does not exist if I slept forever? Or could that mean that only for me common time did not exist? It is quite obvious that only for me common time would not exist. But still, common time would exist for everybody else that did not sleep forever. But who asked in the first place? Is it the "I" of a human construction which is limited by five senses?

It is obvious that the perception of time is tied to MY natural state of waking-consciousness.

Sleep, a common state of consciousness, allows us to experience that time does not exist - as we know it. For the individual mind, the state of consciousness during a lucid dream can be useful for the following day of a waking state of consciousness.
Yet, our wake-consciousness depends on our world which is made up of three dimensions, to even allow the perception of time.
Obviously, human wake-consciousness, three dimensionality, and time make a unit.

Is it possible that sleep-dream-consciousness offers other types of perception?

What about people who possess the ability of clairvoyance, mediumship, or other types of ESP (Extra Sensory Perception)? Do these people bridge the concept of time which never existed in the first place?

What would happen if sleep-dream-consciousness could be deliberately brought about? Would we be without time, in the known sense, but yet with a body and not being conscious of the absence of time?

Some people are able to deliberately put themselves in a state of mind that permits the perception of just that; the sleep-dream-consciousness. These people report on "spiritual/astral" journeys outside of their bodies. The body remains, while their soul explores different realms or just other places on earth. Distance and time seem not to matter anymore. Bilocation - the ability to appear in two different places at the same time - is just another phenomenon which suggests that time and space exist in ways other than those known to us.

What has changed? Obviously the state of consciousness of the person, the one who carries the soul and the individual spirit.

Is human consciousness independent of its body? This obviously must be the case.

Are there different types of consciousness connected to a person? Yes, recall the definitions.

Is it possible, that in the moment when a person is unable to relate to himself and his environment with his 5 senses, part of his consciousness travels -- independent of time and space? This seems not only possible, but a fact (i.e., while dreaming at night).

So what aspect of consciousness, what exactly travels? It is the soul.

Doesn't this suggest that a person, within the three dimensional existence and his concept of time, is without time during this specific state of consciousness? Yes, since he cannot perceive time as we know it. To him time does not exist.

Therefore, three dimensional existence and time make a unit to be perceivable by a person. Who else supposed to perceive it?

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In Conclusion:

To view time as being existent, a perceivable consciousness is needed.

The daily exchange of wake-consciousness to sleep-dream-consciousness with the perception of timelessness by the sleeper only shows: Time only exist in one specific state of consciousness.

A person experiences other states of consciousness, in which the perception of time is not possible, unless he is in his wake-consciousness which allows perception of time as we know it.

Time, as we know it, only exist in 3 dimensionality.

Entities, after changing or adjusting their consciousness, have the ability to perceive happenings on earth which are bound by time. For entities, this type of adjustment is often times sustainable only for a short period of time, since energy is necessary to achieve this state. Most contacts are cut short because of the degeneration of energy; which is required.

Earthly time does not exist in the hereafter, as established above.

In conclusion, a quote from the book "Gehirn Magie" (Brain Magic) from Ulrich Warnke:

The most amazing journey in midst the theories of quantum mechanics is the one of traveling in the future and in the past at the same time. Today, understandably, this is very often ignored.

According to Einstein:

"For us trusting physicists, the separation between past, present, and future is a bare, yet stubborn illusion."

Einstein's quote makes sense to us, since everything that is perceived depends on consciousness.
In addition, if there exist a form of consciousness which is able to perceive time as presence, past, and future, then the process cannot be much different for people as reading a complex and long novel in which the end has already been defined, but the reader only perceives time when changing the pages. And if the hero of the novel would have decided differently on page x, then there must exist a second novel which would have manifested itself in a different book to be perceivable to the reader.

Interesting. I think? I didn't read it.

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Auldrick wrote:
Time allows people to perceive motion. Furthermore, people perceive it differently. One might feel that his perception of time and its manifestation is within a timely context and its justification, regardless if near or far. On the other hand, another person might perceive time as a hand on a clock that moves along minute by minute, validating each change as a sequence of time.

It is utmost important to understand that the concept of time is not easy to explain and not easy to comprehend; even among each other. Especially complicated it will get if one introduces the concept of an afterlife and the probability of time existing in those spheres of existence. The question arises, if time does not exist in an afterlife: How can communication take place between the two spheres?

Hoping to better demonstrate the events that take place, I would like to introduce a model to shed some light on this important aspect of exploring the afterlife.

First of all, it is important to distinguish between the existence of a physical - mathematical term of time and the existence of a consciousness term of time within each human being.

All of us are aware of the phrases: "Well, that took a long time!", "That went fast!", "How much longer will that take?" and so forth. No conflict arises with the physical term of time, since we do have scales to monitor time, as we know it, with explicit accuracy. But, does time exist without the existence of a human being, who interprets what time is - with his human consciousness? Simply put, does time exist without someone reading the clock?

To demonstrate the variety of explanations of this phenomenon, I would like to use a few quotations of other possible models:

Time,

the one-after-the-other-correspondence of things.

the succession of happenings, to be experienced as an irreversible sequence of events, a longitude of change, incidents in nature and history.

to be viewed, depending on scientific (philosophical) views, as finite or infinite, homogenous, divisible continuum, which under specific points of view and appropriations act as a scheme of order.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001 [german translation]


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Time in physics
In physics: time is, by experience, not influenceable. However, it is according to the theory of relativity with the instance of motion of a time measuring observer and its dependent base quantity (t) and seconds (s).
Newtonian, classical physics (non-relative), declared time independent of matter and independent of its variations in its material change, with a clear causal connection (earlier-later-relation) to equally go off in every space of the universe at the same time. By definition of a time interval with a beginning and an end of randomly reproducible events, independent of the measures of the experiments as a unit of time and durance, time becomes precise.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


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Time
is the basic concept necessary to comprehend the motion of matter. Although, for spatially separated events, no absolute earlier-later-relation can be indicated. Yet it is possible for timely separated events and especially for points of a world-line ( = explanation of the movement of a point through a curve in a four dimensional space-time-world); for those, the direction of time is fixed.
(c) Physiklexikon Band 2 , VEB F.A. Brockhaus Verlag


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Time
is for the casual perception a continuous progression in which all changes take place. Within the space-time-continuum all statements are relative. Each statement depends on the location of the observer and his motion relative to the observed object.
(c) "Das neue Taschenlexikon" Band XYZ, Bertelsmann Lexikon Verlag


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Time (by Stephen W. Hawking)
According to the theory of relativity, each observer has his own measure of time, which is registered on the watch he is wearing. Watches on different observers do not have to register the same measurement of time. Therefore, time evolved into a personal concept, depending on the observer who is measuring it.
(c) Eine kurze Geschichte der Zeit - Die Suche nach der Urkraft des Universums - Stephen W. Hawking - Rowohlt Verlag
[(c) A brief history of time - from the big bang to black holes - Stephen W. Hawking]


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Time and Cosmology
Time came about with the big bang, since time before the big bang is could not be defined. The big bang theory suggests: Before matter, space, and time came to being, everything was concentrated within a singularity of extreme density and temperature. Quantitative cosmology was able to approach this singularity to about 10-34 seconds. Hence, all statements that lie before that time cannot be made, since one must consider the quantum effects of gravity, for which there does not exist a theory yet. Time within a black hole does not exist.


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Time and Consciousness
Because of the scientific method, the physical-mathematical concept of time is determined without any reference to human consciousness. But time is something that every person experiences. Each day we fill it, time that is, with meaningful things.
A universal determination of time must therefore include an experiencing individual, the perspective of a first person, and that of others as well. Contrary to the scientific concept of time, a lifetime is an existential dimension. Forecast or the look back do not exhaust themselves in a distant registration of facts and their causal connection. Through the consciousness of time, a correlation can be found to ones own behavior, goals, motivations, and consequences. Past and future are equally judged. Goals can be set, accountability of possible consequences can be taken, and guilt can be restored.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Time within Human Consciousness
The passage of the present is experienced differently within the human consciousness; the non-reversable passage of events, which is experienced as past, present, and future in the context of things coming to be and passing away.
We experience the world as a directed process which allows a conceptual division of space and time. Therefore, time is an abstract emphasis of changeable states of reality.
(c) Bibliographisches Institut & F. A. Brockhaus AG, 2001


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Time,
the feeling of change in moments, hours, days, months, years.
(c) Deutsches Woerterbuch 1996


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Interestingly, perception, observer, assessment, consciousness and judgment are important elements in all definitions and descriptions of time. It is obvious that for the perception of time, a consciousness must be present.
For example a watch on Mars with no observer - digits will change! But is this considered a measurement of time? More and more explorers of established sciences believe that something becomes existent only through observation - even our universe itself. Please remember that all of our perception is based on five senses. However, far more things exist which cannot be perceived by our five senses. Every person can convince him/herself of this by looking at x-rays and microwave radiation photographs of the universe. Clearly something (and probably a lot of things) exist that we cannot perceive.


On the Human Plane (our 3 dimensional world) we experience different types of consciousness':

The "I" - consciousness still exists regardless whether I turn off all signals to my sense organs, that is if I loose contact with my outer world and my own body itself.

The waking-consciousness; the opposite to the loss of consciousness.

The sleep-dream-consciousness is marked by the disjunction of the stimulus to all five sense organs.

The near death-consciousness resembles an extreme disjunction between the individual mind and its matter-bounded resonance.

Lets take a look at a simple and well known example:
While sleeping, we do not register the time sequence known to us during the waking state. Our sleep-dream-consciousness is therefore completely different from our waking-consciousness. Could it be that time, as we know it, does not exist if I slept forever? Or could that mean that only for me common time did not exist? It is quite obvious that only for me common time would not exist. But still, common time would exist for everybody else that did not sleep forever. But who asked in the first place? Is it the "I" of a human construction which is limited by five senses?

It is obvious that the perception of time is tied to MY natural state of waking-consciousness.

Sleep, a common state of consciousness, allows us to experience that time does not exist - as we know it. For the individual mind, the state of consciousness during a lucid dream can be useful for the following day of a waking state of consciousness.
Yet, our wake-consciousness depends on our world which is made up of three dimensions, to even allow the perception of time.
Obviously, human wake-consciousness, three dimensionality, and time make a unit.

Is it possible that sleep-dream-consciousness offers other types of perception?

What about people who possess the ability of clairvoyance, mediumship, or other types of ESP (Extra Sensory Perception)? Do these people bridge the concept of time which never existed in the first place?

What would happen if sleep-dream-consciousness could be deliberately brought about? Would we be without time, in the known sense, but yet with a body and not being conscious of the absence of time?

Some people are able to deliberately put themselves in a state of mind that permits the perception of just that; the sleep-dream-consciousness. These people report on "spiritual/astral" journeys outside of their bodies. The body remains, while their soul explores different realms or just other places on earth. Distance and time seem not to matter anymore. Bilocation - the ability to appear in two different places at the same time - is just another phenomenon which suggests that time and space exist in ways other than those known to us.

What has changed? Obviously the state of consciousness of the person, the one who carries the soul and the individual spirit.

Is human consciousness independent of its body? This obviously must be the case.

Are there different types of consciousness connected to a person? Yes, recall the definitions.

Is it possible, that in the moment when a person is unable to relate to himself and his environment with his 5 senses, part of his consciousness travels -- independent of time and space? This seems not only possible, but a fact (i.e., while dreaming at night).

So what aspect of consciousness, what exactly travels? It is the soul.

Doesn't this suggest that a person, within the three dimensional existence and his concept of time, is without time during this specific state of consciousness? Yes, since he cannot perceive time as we know it. To him time does not exist.

Therefore, three dimensional existence and time make a unit to be perceivable by a person. Who else supposed to perceive it?

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In Conclusion:

To view time as being existent, a perceivable consciousness is needed.

The daily exchange of wake-consciousness to sleep-dream-consciousness with the perception of timelessness by the sleeper only shows: Time only exist in one specific state of consciousness.

A person experiences other states of consciousness, in which the perception of time is not possible, unless he is in his wake-consciousness which allows perception of time as we know it.

Time, as we know it, only exist in 3 dimensionality.

Entities, after changing or adjusting their consciousness, have the ability to perceive happenings on earth which are bound by time. For entities, this type of adjustment is often times sustainable only for a short period of time, since energy is necessary to achieve this state. Most contacts are cut short because of the degeneration of energy; which is required.

Earthly time does not exist in the hereafter, as established above.

In conclusion, a quote from the book "Gehirn Magie" (Brain Magic) from Ulrich Warnke:

The most amazing journey in midst the theories of quantum mechanics is the one of traveling in the future and in the past at the same time. Today, understandably, this is very often ignored.

According to Einstein:

"For us trusting physicists, the separation between past, present, and future is a bare, yet stubborn illusion."

Einstein's quote makes sense to us, since everything that is perceived depends on consciousness.
In addition, if there exist a form of consciousness which is able to perceive time as presence, past, and future, then the process cannot be much different for people as reading a complex and long novel in which the end has already been defined, but the reader only perceives time when changing the pages. And if the hero of the novel would have decided differently on page x, then there must exist a second novel which would have manifested itself in a different book to be perceivable to the reader.

Interesting. I think? I didn't read it.

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People assume that time is a strict progression caused to effect, but actually from a non-linear non-subjective view of point, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.
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